WATCH: Piers Morgan Blasts Transgender Parent’s Refusal to Assign Baby Gender


Piers Morgan is no conservative — if you don’t believe us, just ask The Heritage Foundation’s Ryan Anderson or Ben Shapiro — but he is certainly going against the grain by objecting to the Left’s ridiculous narrative on gender.

In a shocking segment for Good Morning Britain, Piers Morgan sparred with Kori Doty, a Canadian transgender parent who refused to assign her newborn baby with a gender and had the baby’s health card marked with an “unknown” signifier for gender.

Watch the explosive confrontation between Morgan and Doty below:

After a lengthy initial back and forth about the absurdity of Doty’s non-binary gender identification — with Doty demanding that Morgan choose his words carefully as to not offend the trans community — Morgan questioned the impossible logic of having a genderless baby:

MORGAN: I’m happy for you to identify any way you damn well see fit, it’s fine, it’s your business, right? What I’m more concerned about is your baby having absolutely zero identity until it decides what it wants to be — can I call it ‘it’? What do I call your baby? Is it an ‘it?’ What is it?

DOTY: I use the pronouns ‘they’ and ‘their’, the same pronouns I use for myself I use for my kid…

MORGAN: ‘They’ or ‘their’ is a plural, it’s not a singular thing, you’re a singular person.

DOTY: It has actually been used as a singular pronoun in English since the time of Chaucer…

MORGAN: Well, we’ve moved on a bit from Chaucer’s language. Otherwise I would be saying to you, verily I say unto thee, I think your baby, at the moment, should be assigned a gender until it’s old enough to work out, if like its parent — I was going to say father there — if its parent, you know, can help it have that debate when it, when they — so confusing — when they get older…

When Doty expressed frustration at Morgan’s line of questioning, Morgan’s co-host, Susanna Reid, interjected and attempted to find a happy medium on the issue:

REID: Kory, with total respect, I completely understand that you do not want your child to perhaps be restricted by the social and cultural expectations of a gender identity. I get that…

MORGAN: Do you?

REID: I do. Because there’s lots of mums or dads who might not want their child dressed in pink or blue or have to play with certain types of toys and all the rest of it.

But what I don’t understand is if your child has a clear biological identity, why you don’t just want to factually have that on a form which can then allow your child to apply for a passport, at the moment your child is not allowed to have a birth certificate, and then also it leads you and your child into all sort of difficult conversations about identity as you said, you know, all sorts of intimate questions that you might not want to answer or discuss but inevitably are going to come out of this. Why not just allow your child to be male or female depending on what they are at birth but then decide for themselves how they want to act and be treated?

But Doty objected strongly to that:

DOTY: Because operating in that way is operating from the expectation that not being trans is the default and being trans is weird. Or it’s like, it’s the exception to the norm. I don’t actually believe that it’s the exception to the norm. I believe that it’s what we understand as common, but I don’t actually believe that people who are trans should have to be the only ones who have to figure out those parts of themselves and then go back and say the guess was wrong. I think all kids should have room to say, I like pink, I like trucks, I wanna be called this, I wanna be called that, I wanna play certain games — the problem is that the default, let’s just assume that everyone’s cis, that if you have a vagina that you’re a girl, you’re a girl, the problem is that our society is disadvantaging all of those people.

At this point, Morgan found the whole thing absurd:

MORGAN: What happens if your baby gets to four or five and decides it wants to identify as a monkey? Then what?

DOTY: Well, we’ll probably have some important conversations about species and science and things that are appropriate for a four year old…

MORGAN: Well, taking your logic, why would it be inappropriate for your child, when they reach four or five, to identify as a monkey? I mean, you…

DOTY: Because they are a human being. They are a human being. And we’re talking about gender, we’re not talking about species.

MORGAN: Okay, so your baby can be a human being?

DOTY: They are a human being. I’m raising them as a human being.

As ridiculous as Morgan’s question seems, he brings up a good point: why is the concept of trans-species deemed absurd while transgender is not? If a child is objectively a human being, then why aren’t they objectively male or female? A simple examination of a child’s DNA would reveal that the child is a human with either XX or XY chromosomes that biologically determine gender.

Perhaps inadvertently, Morgan stumbles upon the fundamental inconsistency with the politics of transgenderism: If a boy with male reproductive organs can be a girl, why, then, can’t a child with human physiology be a monkey? Why are people like Rachel Dolezal ridiculed for identifying as trans-racial by the same people that claim gender is not a biological fact but instead a fluid social construct? Why was this 52-year-old man who claims he is trans-age and identifies as a six-year-old girl conveniently ignored by LGBT activists and treated as a joke by the media?

If we believe that we are indeed the gods of our own domain, that we create our own realities, and that there are no objective truths, we should at least be consistent across the board, right?

Photo credit: Screenshot via YouTube

Jon Schweppe

Jon Schweppe is the Director of Government Affairs for American Principles Project. Follow him on Twitter @JonSchweppe

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