❓WHAT HAPPENED: An alleged secret recording of Antifa activists in the Netherlands shows the group advocating political violence.
👤WHO WAS INVOLVED: Antifa and Lydia Daniël of the “Let Women Speak NL” campaign group.
📍WHEN & WHERE: The recording was allegedly made during an Antifa workshop on May 19, 2025, with the recordings published in October.
💬KEY QUOTE: “When violence is justified is all up to you as a person, because I can tell you when I would use violence, but that is not the same for everyone.” – Antifa speaker.
🎯IMPACT: The recording further strengthens the case for declaring Antifa a terrorist group in the Netherlands, following President Donald J. Trump in the U.S.
Secretly recorded audio allegedly captured at an Antifa workshop in the Netherlands has sparked renewed calls to classify the group as a terrorist organisation. The recording was released by Lydia Daniël of the “Let Women Speak NL” campaign group, which advocates for the preservation of women’s rights based on biological sex. Daniël claims the workshop was aimed at disrupting her group’s political activity.
The audio includes a speaker discussing the use of violence in political contexts, saying, “When violence is justified is all up to you as a person, because I can tell you when I would use violence, but that is not the same for everyone.”
The speaker also details tactics reportedly used during protests, including a “fingernail tactic” intended to break through police lines. According to the recording, such tactics are said to be effective in the Netherlands because police rarely form more than one line of resistance. The speaker notes that even if participants are arrested for “pushing police away,” they are often released within hours.
The audio supports recent arguments made by Geert Wilders, leader of the populist Party for Freedom (PVV), who has long argued that Antifa poses a threat to public order. In September, the Dutch parliament approved a motion introduced by Wilders urging the government to classify Antifa as a terrorist organization officially. While the motion passed, it is non-binding, and the final decision rests with the Dutch cabinet.
The controversy in the Netherlands comes as other countries across the European Union (EU) weigh similar actions. In Hungary, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán announced in September that his government would follow President Donald J. Trump in designating Antifa a terrorist group. Germany’s right-wing AfD party has made similar calls, saying it will push for such a classification if it gains power.
In the European Parliament, the Patriots for Europe alliance of populist-nationalist parties is also seeking formal recognition of Antifa as a terrorist entity. However, that appears unlikely, given outright support for Antifa in the EU body.
In the United States, Trump announced in September that Antifa would be designated a domestic terrorist organization, calling it a “major threat to law and order.” The executive order directs federal agencies to investigate and dismantle Antifa-affiliated networks.
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