Two podcasters have been forced to remove an episode of their show from the Internet by court order after they used male pronouns to describe a balding transgender “woman.” They also face massive fines or even prison.
German podcasters ‘Hoss and Hopf’—said to be sympathetic to the populist Alternative for Germany (AfD) party—referred to Laura Holstein, formerly Nicholas, as a man following several stories about his attempts to access women’s spaces.
Kiarash “Hoss” Hossainpour described the pair’s legal troubles on X (formerly Twitter), writing that the Frankfurt am Main Regional court demanded the removal of the podcast episode in an “expedited procedure” without any oral arguments at all. The court claimed that the “misgendering” is a violation of Holstein’s rights.
“It is noteworthy that the court saw an ‘extraordinary urgency’ here—as if using biologically correct terms represented an immediate danger that could not be delayed. One inevitably wonders whether other, perhaps genuinely urgent cases had to take a back seat for this,” Hossainpour wrote.
The podcasters now face a possible €250,000 ($276,414) fine and up to six months in prison if they cannot pay it. They face two years in jail if they repeat the supposed offense.
Germany is not the only European country with laws against “misgendering.” Last year, Britain’s Labour Party, which is now in government, promised to make misgendering a crime carrying a prison term of up to two years.
In the United States, Michigan’s House of Representatives also passed “misgendering” laws last year, proposing sentences of up to five years for violators despite constitutional free speech protections.