Three Winners, Three Losers from GOP Debate

August 7, 2015

by Jon Schweppe


Iowa GOP/Fox News Debate, August 11, 2011 (photo credit: IowaPolitics.com via Flickr, CC BY-SA 2.0)

Iowa GOP/Fox News Debate, August 11, 2011 (photo credit: IowaPolitics.com via Flickr, CC BY-SA 2.0)

Last night was one of the most memorable presidential debates in recent memory. There were three clear winners and three clear losers.

WINNERS:

1.) Carly Fiorina

Carly wasn’t even in the prime time debate, but her impressive performance in the 5:00 P.M. debate earned her frequent praise during the prime time debate, including from Megyn Kelly, who opened the debate by telling the 10 male candidates, “It’s a good thing Carly Fiorina isn’t here. She unleashed a can earlier tonight.”

Carly clearly won the “Happy Hour” debate, and given the positive coverage Fox News lavished on her throughout the night, she should receive a nice bump in the polls.

2.) Ted Cruz

Ted Cruz performed very well, although it was nothing out of the ordinary for him. Cruz will likely benefit from the inevitable downfall of Donald Trump. Trump supporters are looking for a fighter who will take on the Washington establishment, and Cruz seems to be the closest thing to fit that bill in the field. If Trump’s numbers dip, Cruz’s numbers will assuredly go up. He’s positioning himself quite nicely.

3.) Mike Huckabee

Huckabee gave a very impressive performance and delivered a clever closing that seemed to be taking aim at Donald Trump… before shocking everyone.

“It seems like this election has been a whole lot on a person who has been very high in the polls, who doesn’t have a clue about how to govern, a person who has been filled with scandals and could not lead… And of course, I’m talking about Hillary Clinton.”

The crowd loved that play on words, and it was very memorable. Huckabee should see an increase in support after last night.

LOSERS:

1.) Rand Paul

I actually think Rand had a perfect approach to this debate. He went after Trump when he refused to pledge to support the eventual nominee and scored a few early points. He tangled with Chris Christie and had a couple nice one-liners. He was aggressive and made an effort to get noticed.

But for whatever reason, it didn’t feel like Rand Paul performed very well last night. It actually felt like he lost ground. Donald Trump had a memorable throwaway line after Paul criticized Trump’s previous support for single-payer health care: “I don’t think you heard me. You’re having a hard time tonight.”

That line may have defined Rand Paul’s debate performance in the minds of those watching, even if it wasn’t necessarily fair or accurate.

2.) Scott Walker

Walker just didn’t stand out. He didn’t flop, he never really failed, but he constantly gave C+ responses that got lost in the shuffle. Walker will need a stronger performance in the next debate, or he’s going to start losing ground. This says less about Walker and more about the impressive GOP field.

3.) Donald Trump

He was hilarious. He had everyone’s attention. By social media metrics, he won the debate. But he lost as soon as he refused to pledge to support the Republican nominee. He lost when he made a fat joke about Rosie O’Donnell. He lost when he gave no policy specifics and showed pretty clearly that he’s all style and no substance.

While he may keep his front runner status after this debate, I imagine his negatives increased and solidified among Republican voters. Fox News did a focus group with Frank Luntz after the debate, and that was the overall conclusion: Trump’s schtick may work for a segment of the party, but it really irks the rest of it.

As Mary Powers wrote earlier today, Trump is going to struggle in a big way with women because of some of the ridiculous things he has said in the past. There’s just no defending what he has said, and yet last night, instead of apologizing for his nasty comments in the past, he doubled down. He essentially called Rosie O’Donnell fat and ugly — again — in a national, primetime debate. And the crowd roared. Yikes.

It’s August. Right now we’re all amused by this. But eventually, GOP voters are going to sober up and realize we can do better than Donald Trump.

Jon Schweppe is Deputy Director of Communications for American Principles in Action.


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85 comments on “Three Winners, Three Losers from GOP Debate”

  • JoeOliver says:

    Now ya done it!  LOL

  • JoeOliver says:

    Thanks FOX and  That jerk that excluded Trump from Atlanta.. with out your hate and exclusion tactics these stats would not be possible..  Eat This:  3 Million and rising.

    878,695 People Talking About This
    3,026,400 Total Page Likes + 7.5% from last week 
    211,530 New Page Likes +50.5%
    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump

  • JoeOliver says:

    RonNelson4 Trump / Carson  I don’t trust Fiorina

  • RonNelson4 says:

    Dr. Carson was the REAL winner! A man among boys!

  • JoeOliver says:

    SoniaMargaritaGangotena 
    McCains butt buddy Kerry – can you imagine your dad, son,  husband or
    other relative who went to fight for our nation being “left behind” for
    political gain, money, power in after war Vietnam?  ( among other things
    )
    When John Kerry’s Courage Went M.I.A.
    ( In part ) Read more here:
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/when-john-kerrys-courage-went-mia-6408399

    Senator John Kerry, a decorated battle veteran, was courageous as a
    navy lieutenant in the Vietnam War. But he was not so courageous more
    than two decades later, when he covered up voluminous evidence that a
    significant number of live American prisoners— perhaps hundreds—were
    never acknowledged or returned after the war-ending treaty was signed in
    January 1973. 
    The
    Massachusetts senator, now seeking the presidency, carried out this
    subterfuge a little over a decade ago— shredding documents, suppressing
    testimony, and sanitizing the committee’s final report—when he was
    chairman of the Senate Select Committee on P.O.W./ M.I.A. Affairs. 
    Over the years, an abundance of evidence had come to light that the
    North Vietnamese, while returning 591 U.S. prisoners of war after the
    treaty signing, had held back many others as future bargaining chips for
    the $4 billion or more in war reparations that the Nixon administration
    had pledged. Hanoi didn’t trust Washington to fulfill its pro-mise
    without pressure. Similarly, Washington didn’t trust Hanoi to return all
    the prisoners and carry out all the treaty provisions. The mistrust on
    both sides was merited. Hanoi held back prisoners and the U.S. provided
    no reconstruction funds.

  • JoeOliver says:

    SoniaMargaritaGangotena This is in brief:
    John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who, unlike him, didn’t return home. Throughout his Senate career, McCain has quietly sponsored and pushed into federal law a set of prohibitions that keep the most revealing information about these men buried as classified documents.
    Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or tried to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi Politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in the 1990s. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the Politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting reparations from Washington.
    Two defense secretaries who served during the Vietnam War testified to the Senate POW committee in September 1992 that prisoners were not returned. James Schlesinger and Melvin Laird, secretaries of defense under Nixon, said in a public session and under oath that they based their conclusions on strong intelligence data — letters, eyewitness reports, even direct radio contacts.
    On November 11, 1992, Dolores Alfond, sister of missing airman Capt. Victor Apodaca and chair of the National Alliance of Families, an organization of relatives of POW/MIAs, testified at one of the Senate committee’s public hearings. She asked for information about data the government had gathered from electronic devices used in a classified program known as PAVE SPIKE.
    The devices were primarily motion sensors, dropped by air, designed to pick up enemy troop movements. But they also had rescue capabilities. Someone on the ground — a downed airman or a prisoner on a labor gang — could manually enter data into the sensor, which were regularly collected electronically by US planes flying overhead. Alfond stated, without any challenge from the committee, that in 1974, a year after the supposedly complete return of prisoners, the gathered data showed that a person or people had manually entered into the sensors — as US pilots had been trained to do — “no less than 20 authenticator numbers that corresponded exactly to the classified authenticator numbers of 20 US POW/MIAs who were lost in Laos.” Alfond added, says the transcript: “This PAVE SPIKE intelligence is seamless, but the committee has not discussed it or released what it knows about PAVE SPIKE.”
    McCain, whose POW status made him the committee’s most powerful member, attended that hearing specifically to confront Alfond because of her criticism of the panel’s work. He bellowed and berated her for quite a while. His face turning anger-pink, he accused her of “denigrating” his “patriotism.” The bullying had its effect — she began to cry.
    After a pause Alfond recovered and tried to respond to his scorching tirade, but McCain simply turned and stormed out of the room. The PAVE SPIKE file has never been declassified. We still don’t know anything about those 20 POWs.
    The only explanation McCain has ever offered for his leadership on legislation that seals POW information is that he believes the release of such information would only stir up fresh grief for the families of those who were never accounted for in Vietnam. Of the scores of POW families I’ve met over the years, only a few have said they want the books closed without knowing what happened to their men. All the rest say that not knowing is exactly what grieves them.

  • JoeOliver says:

    John McCain assaulted Jeannette Jenkins, cousin of an American missing
    in South Vietnam since May of 1965, by backhanding her against the wall.
    He then threatened a wheelchair-bound mother by raising his left arm as
    if to strike her before coming to his senses. He then pushed her
    wheelchair out of the way and abruptly continued down the hall.
    The
    two speakers are Eleanor Apodaca, sister of a Vietnam War MIA, and
    Carol Hrdlicka, wife of a USAF pilot shot down in 1965. Photos
    demonstrate that Hrdlicka’s husband was held in CAPTIVITY, yet he never
    returned after the war. She details her long experience with John
    McCain’s betrayal of trust.
    To view McCain’s rude and
    antagonistic attack against Delores Alfond, Chairperson of the National
    Alliance of Families for the Return of America’s Missing, at the Senate
    Select Committee for POW/MIA Affairs in November 1992 please see the
    YouTube video above.

    https://www.youtube.com/v/T1AWeZrdxfQ

  • JoeOliver says:

    SoniaMargaritaGangotena McCain:  Him and Kerry sold out our PoW/MIA’s still held captive and then in his normal insensitive manor, vilifies the wife of a PoW/MIA among other things.   
    //////////////////////////////////////////
    Mean spirited McCain is known for throwing temper tantrums, flying off
    the handle, blowing his top,seething with anger, accusing others of
    lying, and of mistreating POW/MIA family members. So how will he treat
    U.S.? POW/MIA families report…You decide
    https://www.youtube.com/v/-CazKanlYDg

  • SoniaMargaritaGangotena says:

    McCain was a POW, but is a very poor conservative politician whose sense of loyalty is to himself and he acts confused in political decisions, moving more and more to the left. Who cares what he thinks!  Trump said what most conservatives and others think about McCain. A hero in war may not be a hero in politics, especially if he doesn’t know how to keep his moral character in politics. …Consorting with ISIS and other enemies of the US is patriotic? I don’t think so.

  • JoeOliver says:

    SpokaneMan55

  • JoeOliver says:

    a bit of history…

  • JoeOliver says:

    On March 25,  1999, two of McCain’sfellow POWs, Ted Guy ( http://www.soft-vision.com/we-remember )and Gordon
    “Swede” Larson  ( http://www.soft-vision.com/hanoi/larson ) told the Phoenix New Times that, while they could not
    guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.

    As Larson said, “My only contention with the McCain deal is that
    while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted’s
    knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that
    camp. It was the camp that people were released from.”
    Guy and Larson’s claims are given credence by McCain’s vehement
    opposition to releasing the government’s debriefings of Vietnam War
    POWs. 
    Pic: The pic attached  hangs in the Pentagon.  Col. Larson was the poster boy for the men marched through the streets in Vietnam after capture – tortured and beaten by crowds.

  • JoeOliver says:

    Donald Trump leads the GOP presidential field again this week,
    though controversial remarks about Sen. John McCain may have dented his
    popularity among Republicans
    McCain:  Col. Ted W. Guy, USAF (Ret) Former PoW / SRO (Senior Ranking Officer) at the Plantation was McCain’s SRO.  Just before Col. Guy died he started the first Just Say NO to John McCain group and with cause. Col. Guy
    was a personal friend and I am the keeper of his site ( that has not change and will not change ) since he passed away from AO related problem acquired after his shoot-down over Laos and march through the jungles that were sprayed with dioxins on his way to NVN.   http://www.soft-vision.com/hanoi  ( once you get past the opening tribute and the second page you will find a link near the bottom that will take you on a tour of some of the PoW Camps as well as the bio’s of some of our heroes who spent time as PoW. )   The easiest way for me to point out issues with McCain is to give this link to Cdr. Beak Atkinson’s information that will explain in part why Col. Guy went after McCain.  Trump was correct to some extent.

    The Mythical John McCain

    A Conversation with the NAM-POW Leaders

    September 2008 
    http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/TheMythicalJohnMcCain.htm

    I have the same set of items sent to Atkinson that was given to me by Col. Guy that you will read about  in this next link.
    John McCain ‘Sang Like a Canary’ to the North Vietnamese©
    Material Supplied by Colonel Ted Guy
    John McCain’s SRO at the Plantation
    Dedicated to the Memory of Ted Guy
    15 April 2008
    http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainSangLikeACanary.htm

  • JoeOliver says:

    SpokaneMan55

  • SawmillJack says:

    SpokaneMan55 JoeOliver Are you totally brain dead or just not paying attention? Nobody would be talking about illegal immigration with any honesty. The whole GOP took it pretty much off the table out of fear of hurting somebody’s feelings. While I’m on the subject of hurting somebody’s feelings I’ll tell you that Rosie O’donnell was not attacked, Trump didn’t have to pick a fight with her. RO has repeatedly attacked every Republican in America, all of their values and all of their friends. It happens publicly on television at least five days a week for the last ten years.  If you’re sticking up for that POS you must agree with her politics.  As far as paying back the banks, that would be paying back the people that have become rich robbing the American people and government, even richer buying congressional favor at our expense. Trump did pay them back as far as I’m concerned. Remember that BS bailout deal? We all paid them back multiple times. He absolutely isn’t the only passionate conservative in the group but most of them owe their allegiance to someone else besides us. Thats what we’ve had in this country for the last thirty plus years.

  • SpokaneMan55 says:

    Wow! Can’t believe all the folks on here praising Trump for being a bomb-throwing loud-mouth and call it “telling the truth”, then crapping on Megan Kelly for asking tough questions and calling people on their BS. Lotta folks here making really stupid comments showing they know nothing about any of the other candidates, e.g. “Trump is the only one who isn’t a politician”. Ya really think picking a fight with a dumbass like Rosie shows leadership? It shows about as much leadership as wrestling a greased pig just to get the publicity.  I wish those of you who are really stupid (oh, crap, just occurred to me – you don’t even know who you are) would stop calling yourselves Rednecks. You gonna give people the impression ALL of us Rednecks are ignorant  fools who will vote for loudmouthRockstar. Geez, voting for the Rockstar is  how Obama got elected. Electing a conservative Bozo ain’t no better than electing a liberal Bozo, and if Trump decides to go third party we’ll get Hillary.

  • SpokaneMan55 says:

    JoeOliver  Trump is an entertainer. He’s also a megalomaniac. One example, saying if it wasn’t for him nobody would be talking about immigration. He’s not a straight talker, he’s a bomb-thrower. FOUR TIMES declared bankruptcy says he’s not the financial wizard he claims to be. Nobody asked him if now that he’s financially solvent, “Did you ever go back and pay all the people who got screwed when you declared bankruptcy?”. Legally he’s not required to do that, but ethically, not paying people what you owe them is theft. In his case it’s grand theft. He’s so intent on being in the spotlight he’ll pick a fight with a nobody slob (R.O.) just to get the attention. The man is no way suited to wield the power of the Presidency. The last thing we need is four more years of Bozodom, and that’s exactly what the Rump, Chump, Bump, Grump would bring this nation. We need more in a president than a big ego and a bigger mouth. He’s not the only passionate conservative in the group, just the one who gets the attention, not only because of his endless self-promotion, but because he keeps saying stupid things.

  • JoeOliver says:

    motherall TomWiley

  • JoeOliver says:

    Correction:

    say what? ” But he lost as soon as he refused to pledge to support the Republican nominee” 
    You
    pencil pushers who think you have memorized the masses just don’t get
    it! You must think those who live and are conservative are robots.  All
    you need to do is opine and they fall over each other trying to get here
    and apologize.
    You Mr., are part of the problem.  You can
    take your opinion and Rossie Odumbo and all your PC crap and stick it
    where the sun doth not shineth.
    all the sheep said: We Pledge Allegiance to the Republican Party and if not chosen will not run as an independent.
    Trump
    is a leader not a follower and proved it when he refused to “follow the
    crowd”. Trump Pledged Allegiance To The Flag of the United States Of America.
    It
    doesn’t take mustard in your guts to follow the crowd. It does to STAND
    UP and be your own person despite what the flock of sheep are doing.
    “Sheepdog Trump” for sure not a sheep.
    My name is Joe Oliver and I approve this message.
    Over 67 years on the planet and still having fun

  • JoeOliver says:

    DominicKrischke JoeOliver   No excuse.

  • DominicKrischke says:

    JoeOliver Looses????

  • JoeOliver says:

    TomBurriss I’ll be your yes man on that…

  • JoeOliver says:

    KiatchaNyquist  A Trump / Carson ticket? ya think?

  • JoeOliver says:

    @Carole Wilkinson  Yep!

  • JoeOliver says:

    @Carole Wilkinson Not politically correct, no speil chicker, no grammatics , got GramMa Tic collar. 
    Looks like you “got it” why should I correct it.. and will not on my watch.

  • B says:

    Lmao this poster is a joke, right? “Soley”?

  • TomBurriss says:

    These debate evaluations are all about money… TRUMP has his own money..  can’t be bought…  and it’s scares the special interest groups…   the lobbyists…  it scares the corporations who need a yes man….    they don’t get this with Donald Trump…   Are we going to turn our country around?   How can we do it with a bunch of sell-outs????    We need a guy like TRUMP!

  • BarryFlowers says:

    I want to see: Carly, Carson, Jindal, Cruz, Trump, Walker and, Huckabee in the next prime time debate.
    Toss in Bush, Rand and Perry.

  • KiatchaNyquist says:

    My take of all this is this: Americans are tired of politicians and the only ones not politicians are Donald Trump and Ben Carson. We are hearing what the media wants and a time will come when the American people will give their opinions on the candidates. The highest in the polls right now is Donald Trump and he is doing better than all of the GOP candidates so far.

  • MickyFord says:

    With who you have right now NO you can’t do better than Trump

  • Ryan Johnson says:

    Trump said nothing about Rosie O’Donnell that wasn’t true…

  • Carole Wilkinson says:

    JoeOliver  Should be…you’re fired…get your English straight before you post.

  • Carole Wilkinson says:

    I think the big, big loser last night was
    Fox News and in particular…Megyn Kelly…no class…snarky…and witless.

  • JulieLeighton says:

    This is so aggravating.  Dr. Ben Carson was a clear winner.

  • JoeOliver says:

    MrRoboto  Kinda draws on into Trumps corner. Don’t cha know!

  • JoeOliver says:

    motherall  LMAO – you are correct!

  • JoeOliver says:

    RoseannStapff  Please, tell them what you really think!

  • JoeOliver says:

    TrentSaxton Trump / Kasich ticket.  Kasich is a very sincere person

  • JoeOliver says:

    SawmillJack

  • JoeOliver says:

    RhondaFreeman  Let ’em have it.  It is so SICKENING to see where FOX is heading …

  • DavidRPriest says:

    If I were Trump, I would have turned it around.    I would say,  why should I commit when I don’t know who the nominee is.   By the way, Republicans have not supported the “pick” of the establishment in the last two elections and that is why we have lost.   Does the Republican party think that we will vote for whoever they throw up there??

  • JoeOliver says:

    geogeogg LOL

  • JoeOliver says:

    @Bo  I was in Rick Perry’s corner till I noted the bully’s in the playground and the press picking on Trump and hoping to exclude him..  and PC Crap was one of their hopeful weapons.  They haven’t got a clue.

  • JoeOliver says:

    @Blake  You may be on to something!

  • JoeOliver says:

    ChadCarr  Amen.

  • ChadCarr says:

    Trump may have had a sub par closing statement but he is the best candidate. We do NOT need a politician with slick words running the country. Nothing gets done when that happens. Trump actually cares and will turn us around.

  • ChadCarr says:

    Trump is the front runner. He is the only one up there that gives a damn.

  • Stephen says:

    Trump and Carly, Ben Carson cabinet position, What a breath of fresh air!!!

  • demerson61 says:

    AaronRocha Probably a lot of truth in your comment Aaron.

  • KevinDiepenbrock says:

    why would trump support a republican Nominee if he didn’t like him?? there are many candidates I won’t support  just because hes on the republican platform you think hes good and we should all support.   Voting for the lesser of two evils  still leave you supporting  an evil!!  what has this republican control house done?  not a damn thing!!! why support the same old BS  they think they are a class above anybody else and they take brides from everybody  I think that was proven in the debate,  if we could fix just that one thing I think we are already better off!!!!

  • motherall says:

    @Scott Newin Trump has been very clear in his beliefs and plans. You obviously don’t like him.  Fine.  But I have done my homework since last election when I hoped he would run.  We desperately need a businessman now, not another politician.

  • motherall says:

    Cathy Rich Obama is far from a great orator; he’s not even a good reader.  If he has to speak without his “lie generator” he can only stutter and uh uh uh. I call it machine gun speech…throw out 10 words and then reload.

  • motherall says:

    TomWiley I think that was smart on his part.  I wouldn’t make that pledge in case the nominee was Jeb.  Again, honest to a fault.

  • motherall says:

    Adamsadd I find Obama’s disrespecting the American  taxpayer more un PC and dangerous.  He thinks he is invincible but fears the returning mlitary who know how he has sold us out…the reason he wants to deny guns to veterans.  Trump is nothing if not honest.

  • motherall says:

    rexbigg1 And always addressed Bush as Governor….no more, thank God.  Walker was not addressed by that title even though he is active.  The media always shows their bias.

  • Charles says:

    Why would Trump support just any republican nominee? If Bush or Graham or Christy get nominated I vote for Gary Johnson again. The republicans have perhaps the best field to choose from in my voting lifetime, I’m 53. If the RNC really wanted to win they would ask Bush, Christy and Graham to please go away. I think a Cruze ticket with Carson, Fiorina, Walker would be great.

  • Blake says:

    Hey asswipe.  You cannot do better than Trump.  Who cares about Rosie O’Donnell.  Did he say anything that was not true?

    You are all politically correct, idiots.  Liberal Media.

  • motherall says:

    The very fact that media is pushing Fiorina means they want to see female against female and want the crook to be the winner.  and Trump was on point and honest. Why should he pledge to back whomever the candidate will be?  The RNC is not backing him and he’s too honest throw his support to a Jeb Bush.  He’s honest….so pillory him.  Let’s push more of the Obama/Clinton pattern of lies.

  • Bo says:

    What is the media obsession with canning Trump.. polls show he is what the people want. He speaks truth about things that your establishment politicians refuse to. He isn’t verbally blowing every person he talks to like everyone else. In fact he not only scares the hell out of ALL of the career politicians, he is also scaring the media. My guess is they would have to actually report again instead of being told what to say all the time.. and for the record.. Rosie is a fat ugly person. Her thought alone put her in line with pond scum..

  • AaronRocha says:

    anyone that thinks trump is the only answer for this country wants the the clintons to win.  think a little broader,  you will be the people that hand the clintons the white hose in 2016 if she isn’t in jail. 

    here is how the call from clinton went: 

    clinton: hey trump
    trump: hey bill
    clinton: if you run for pres you can split the republican vote

    trump:  i know i can 
    clinton: you know republicans like rich people and they will follow you if you as arrogant as you are on the apprentice. They love that show. 

    trump: whats in it for me? 
    clinton: we can create more eminent domain areas in new york  and you can steal that land legally form all these idiots that will follow you
    trump: sounds like a good deal
    clinton: so how old is your daughter?

    click…

  • geogeogg says:

    I heard good points from each candidate. I was displeased with Megyn Kelly. She was rude and unprofessional. Some of her questions had no business in a debate forum. If she hosts a Dem debate will she ask Hillary about Bill and his enjoyment of Monika Lewinski on her knees?

  • rexbigg1 says:

    Didn’t care for how they were trying to get Trump and Paul to self-destruct though. They started the debate off with that pledge thing and of course if Trump was going to be honest he could only answer one way, then they pitted Christie and Paul against each other multiple times. Pretty easy to see through all that though. Those transparent strategies almost tell me all I need to know frankly, they want Paul and Trump gone. 
    It seems to me they only put the name and title for Bush and Cruz up for people to read. Maybe I missed when they did it for the
    others, but those are the only two I consciously noticed they gave that honor to.

  • RhondaFreeman says:

    Fox needs to quit trying to pick our next president by pushing their own agenda. The American people actually have brains and can decide for theirselves who they want leading this country. I still like trump.

  • SawmillJack says:

    I don’t see Trump coming off this debate any weaker than he was before it. When he said we wouldn’t even be talking about immigration if he hadn’t brought it up at his announcement he was quite right. It is true that almost everyone on that stage had talked about it in the past but it is also true that they have had plenty of time to fix the problem, and haven’t. As far as continuing the conversation on illegal immigration it appears to me that the GOP  had taken it off the table and NONE of the candidates were openly discussing it as an issue until Trump forced them to. Only an idiot would expect Trump to lock himself into a promise not to run third party at this stage of the process. I believe that win lose or draw Donald Trump is serious about changing things. They have to be changed. We can’t go another four or eight years like it is and given the GOP’s new game plan for controlling the candidates he may have to run third party or use that threat to make things happen the way they need to. 
    I thought it was laughable when Rand Paul attacked him on the issue of giving money to Clinton, when he himself has taken money from Trump. Trump has given money to probably most of the politicians in the U.S to gain advantage as a businessman. The sad thing is that many many people give large sums of money to candidates and our elected officials every day to influence them. These hypocrites would like to pretend that it doesn’t happen and in reality it is the number one reason that none of us can elect a representative to the House of Representatives that will represent their constituents instead of lobbyist bearing gifts. We all know the truth but not many will say it.

  • nancy satterfield says:

    I THINK YOU ARE ALL GOING TO BE SUPPRISED ABOUT TRUMP DON’T COUNT HIM OUT TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS AND “ROSEY CAN’T SING”  STILL A LOT OF TIME BEFORE ELECTIONS YOU CAN BET ON THAT AND IF HE GOES THIRD PARTY WELL THAT’S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT WORKING WITH A MAN WHO TRULY LOVES HIS COUNTRY , AND THE MILITARY, AND GETTING THINGS DONE RIGHT SO BE PREPARED FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.

  • Buddym says:

    Donald is like all the other people on the stage… each one has his or her own idea on what to do, but you really cant understand the problem in real time until you are in the BIG CHAIR. I like Donald not because of his words or actions but because I firmly believe that when he gets elected that he will be surrounded with all the right people (cause he knows where to go to get the information) and because of that he will be able to make the right decision on the direction we need to go. Thats my thoughts on this matter.

  • Adamsadd says:

    It’s funny MOST people like Trump because he is not a politician, speaks his mind and is not afraid to call out politicians on their mistakes.. As soon as he is with a bunch of Politicians he stands out and the MEDIA attempts to jump all over him. He was great…yes he is a little UN-Politically correct..but he is exactly what we need in this country. I find it interesting that FOX singled him out with the first question FULL WELL KNOWING what his answer would be. Republica, Independent, Democrat..or even Klingon – who cares what his party affiliation is. This country needs a leader like him. Our continued existance as a country DEPENDS on it!

  • DanaThompson says:

    I felt, at least in the 1st segment of the debate, ALL of the Fox moderators were doing was trying to set up every candidate with a ‘gotcha’ question. No Substance

  • MichaelWAlbers says:

    I thought Meygan and Chris were the Candy Crowley of this event. Shanme on them.

  • TomWiley says:

    “he lost as soon as he refused to pledge to support the Republican nominee.” – Why?  I wouldn’t trust the bunch of RINO’s that currently run the Republican party, they side with Obama at every opportunity!  I’ve been a Republican all of my life, but lately I’ve considered voting for a 3rd party if another RINO like McCain gets the nomination!

  • TrentSaxton says:

    I picked six candidates that stood out tonight.
    Rubio, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Carly Fiorina, Walker…..
    We still need Kasich to win…make him V.P.

  • Cathy Rich says:

    @Scott Newin  Then you are not listening to him.  I agree that as the debates move forward he needs to get into more specifics but the business approach is different than the political approach — The business approach is defining the problem and then getting think tanks together to figure the best solution — which is very different than the political approach which is to promise the moon the sun and the stars and then figure out after elected how it will all work in the real world and if it is even possible…. When Trump says something that means he is going to do it — For example, he clearly said he would build a Wall at the south border.  He clearly said that he would negotiate better trade relations with China and Mexico – you can’t be more specific than that because first he needs to negotiate with them and second there is trillions owed to China so he will have to think of other leverage techniques to get his trade deals done — there is not way for him to promise his exact mode until he assembles his teams and gets on it after being elected — which you he will do ASAP.  He has said he will rip up every Obama executive order time and time again and will get rid of Obama care for private sector alternatives — He can’t be specific because if he was he would risk promising specifics that he can’t guarantee (the political way).  So you have these scripted actors/politicians with every kind of used car sales pitch going but if you look back most politicans that get elected ending up falling short of their promises — Obama had a great mapped out plan to reduced the then 11 trillion debt but now we are approaching 19 trillion — He not only complexly failed but will have double the debt by the time he leaves –and people praised him for having such great fortitude and a plan to solve this problem?  Result ? Worst than it has been by 200 percent increase…. The country needs a business person and not an orating law professor — Trump and Carly are by far the most qualified and I believe that the others are simply nothing more than scripted actors throwing out what the people want to hear with no real basis for doing so…

  • RoseannStapff says:

    This is not what public sentiment says about Trump..Trump won! and the rest of you naysayers and Trump haters go and HAVE CAKE!

  • EmmettDibble says:

    Kelly lost… everyone else did different shades of OK.

  • BrettDuhon says:

    @Scott Newin How concrete can you be in a farce like this with 60 seconds to address and 30 seconds to reply.  This was a total joke!

  • Cathy Rich says:

    I disagree with you as the Fox debate was an all out attack on Donald Trump  The scripted actors/politicians did as expected after memorizing their lines for says before but we need someone who can take action not orate for days on end and not take any real action
    With Today’s Problems:
    19 Trillion in Debt to China who is bullying us into the
    Iran Deal
    Uncontrolled Illegal Immigration – -financial burden and
    higher crime
    82 Million People unemployed
    46 Million People on food stamps
    ISIS threat to US shores growing by the minute
    Gross Domestic Product in the negative (economy shrinking
    – recession)
    Racial Tensions worse today than prior to 1965
    At the GOP Fox Debate the Opening Question of Meghan Kelly
    to Trump is:“So why is it that you call
    women Fat?”
    Need I say More?

    I am a woman and I really don’t care about his remarks about anyone especially Rosie O’Donnell — I care about someone who cad address the issues that matter.  Obama is a great orator but has proven to be the worst president we have ever had – weak on every issue and has plummeted this country into a state of decline….. You can take your used car salesmen and actors — I’ll take the proven business man who has a track record of getting things done from a business perspective and will in a Ronald Reagonesque way come in and clean house on day 1.  I thought the only other non-scripted actor was Ben Carson but he just isn’t strong enough to go up against the leaders in China, Russia, Iran — deal with fading allies Israel, Saudi Arabia etc.  Trump has the business saavy and key is that he doesn’t get intimidated and doesn’t need be politically correct… Just because he says what other people think but don’t have the nerve to say doesn’t make him bad — it makes him brutally honest and the epitomy of strength…

  • Scott Newin says:

    I’m still amazed at all the blind Trump support. He has said nothing concrete or constructive about any topic. Just platitudes and sound bites. All you Trump supporters really need to study on your candidate see what you are REALLY supporting.

  • MrRoboto says:

    I don’t think Trump lost much if any and Fox’s hit on him will only hurt them and strengthen him. FOX is showing their contempt for his honesty and non PC way. His remarks about Rosie are true. What the hell she can bash him but he can’t give it back to her ? She is a loud mouthed piglet plain and simple. This wasn’t a debate it was an organized hit piece on Trump by FOX. Fox has sunk to the level of MSNBC. No I’m not a Trump fan and I like Cruz for president but all of the above is quite obvious.

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