Religious freedom is a core American value, one of those things that really do make us different. We invented it. We practiced it from the beginning. And I am not going to let it go without a fight.
Watching President Obama blame the American people for having security concerns over Syrian refugees is disgusting. But watching Donald Trump refuse to rule out serious violations of Americansâ fundamental constitutional rights is equally so.
Yes, the mainstream media are trolling for gotchas. And yes, I understand that Trumpâs core supporters just want a big strong alpha male who will thump their enemies. But respect for our core constitutional values is a precious and fragile inheritance. Most of the rest of the world doesnât have our deep American faith that our rights come from God, not government, and that core among these is the right to seek God and serve Him freely.
Yahoo News asked Trump whether he would do warrantless searches of American Muslims, or issue some kind of special Muslim ID badge, the way the Nazis required Jews to wear special identification. Donald Trump refused to rule out sending the secret police after people based on their religion. You canât get more un-American than that: âWeâre going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,â Trump said. âAnd certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so weâre going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.â
Now, I donât believe that Trump would likely do that if elected. And I donât believe the courts would let him. The First Amendment hasnât yet been repealed, even if the culture of robust respect for the liberties it implies is being eaten away at our elite college campuses, like Yale. The trade-off is always the same: Make me feel safe, Iâll surrender liberty.
Jim144 RobertoRoldan Typical savage idiocy coming from Jimmy Old Boy! Your hero Ted Cruz attended the Kill The Gays for Religious Freedom convention two weeks ago. You and he are no better than the Muslims you descrbie. Typical hypocrisy from Jimmy Old boy.
Jim144 Although Jimmy Old Boy, your hero Ted Cruz attended the Kill the Gays for Religious Liberty conference two weeks ago. This hideous bigot is no better than the Muslims you describe.
Muslims may have a right to religious freedom here but they DO NOT have the right to push it on to others OR push their Sharia Law. AND THAT IS A FACT!!!
RobertoRoldanÂ
“Good Muslims”? Really, for how long will they be “good” assuming you define good as nice and peaceable. Actually a “good” Muslim follows the Koran which tells them to bide their time, integrate themselves amongst the enemy and wait for the call to rise up and “slay the enemies of Allah”. That is us who do not follow their heathen ways. I have known some very nice Muslims over the years but they have a devotion we do not always understand and so I have to conclude that in my opinion they are ALL dangerous to civilization and civilized people. Good has no place in deciding policies of safety.
Jim144 Very well put, you Jim have a very clear view of what is goiing on. thanks for the common sense post.
Too bad not everyone has common sense, would be a better world wit it.
Ms Gallagher wrote:Â
Religious freedom is a core American
value, one of those things that really do make us different. We invented
it. We practiced it from the beginning.
Sorry, but history records otherwise…
âCyrus
the Great established the Achaemenid Empire ca. 550 BC, and initiated a
general policy of permitting religious freedom throughout the empire,
documenting this on the Cyrus Cylinder.[5][6]â
âFreedom of
religious worship was established in the Buddhist Maurya Empire of
ancient India by Ashoka the Great in the 3rd century BC, which was
encapsulated in the Edicts of Ashoka.â https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion
Clearly these were before the United States was even dreamed of so we hardly âinvented itâ.
Â
“The
idea that the United States has always been a bastion of religious
freedom is reassuringâand utterly at odds with the historical record.”
Smithsonian Magazine October 2010
“Philadelphia’s
Bible Riots of 1844 reflected a strain of anti-Catholic bias and
hostility that coursed through 19th-century America. (Granger
Collection, New York)”
‘From Puritan Bostonâs earliest days,
Catholics (âPapistsâ) were anathema and were banned from the colonies,
along with other non-Puritans. Four Quakers were hanged in Boston
between 1659 and 1661 for persistently returning to the city to stand up
for their beliefs.’ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist
These
quotes were from no more than a five minute search which I did because I
already knew that what was stated as fact in the column was not true.
Now
regarding Mr. Trump who may or may not be someone I vote for, it would
be wise for all to take off the blinders and get a wider truer view of
the situation.Â
IF what the Muslims are doing around the world is
indeed a religion then it is NOT one that any civilized nation should
allow. Nobody or religion has the right to kill themselves or especially
others while claiming it is their right to practice such! Has everyone
lost their minds, how can anyone be so blind? The time is coming when
they will cut every throat remove every head and rip out every set of
guts to any and all who do not bow down and worship their god and way of
life. Anyone who cannot see that deserves to have them as a neighbor.
The Radicals Muslims terrorist are the one that started a War against the USA and the rest of the world. So we need to know who they are , and which are the Good Muslims. This is not about religions freedom but about survival. It is true and understandable that some people will be ofended. But let the Good Muslims come forward and take a stand against the Islamic Criminals and help protect our children and the safety of our country. The good faith of the good people could overcome the fear the groups like ISIS are creating in the world against Muslims in general. If the good Muslims remain silence, it is a sign that they are supporting the actions of the Islamic terrorists. So getting a list of who “is good and who is bad ” it is not just for Santa’s Christmas list. I admire Mr. Trump for having the guts to speak what it is on the mind of the majority of Americans and not playing the P.C game that other politicians do.
Normally yes, however, since Islam is a terrorist cule of vile evil pedophile rapist worshiping pedophiles and murdering rapists, I think that precludes them from any valid religious applications. Any cult that requires its people to lie, cheat, steal, murder, torture, and worse to convert people definitely cannot be a religion. They need exterminated worldwide.
And gay people have a right to free speech. Too bad you don’t allow it here.
But guess what Ms. Gallagher. The American people disagree with you and side with Trump. Look at the polls. And of course in this article,you want to twist his words around. Muslims need to register for ours AND their protection. We did the same thing with the Japanese after Pearl Harbor so before you go and “report” crap like this,check your facts…
the main thing everyone is not saying is that their so called religion is not a religion and the fact that it calls for them to kill any unbelievers is a pretty good reason for no country that doesn’t go with that made up religion its only for the safety of the people and they could just as easy turn on you people the ones that are standing up for them I wonder are all of you just ignorant or is there something else that we are not being told I really think we are not getting the info that we should and you people have something to hide because I don’t think that there is this many people that dumb in the USA but I could be wrong
Well they come, I hope they land in your neighborhood. I don’t them within a thousand miles of me!
Well Maggie if the Muslims were sent back to where ever they were from we would not have to worry about the 1st amendment
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Jim144 RobertoRoldan Typical savage idiocy coming from Jimmy Old Boy! Your hero Ted Cruz attended the Kill The Gays for Religious Freedom convention two weeks ago. You and he are no better than the Muslims you descrbie. Typical hypocrisy from Jimmy Old boy.
Jim144 Although Jimmy Old Boy, your hero Ted Cruz attended the Kill the Gays for Religious Liberty conference two weeks ago. This hideous bigot is no better than the Muslims you describe.
Muslims may have a right to religious freedom here but they DO NOT have the right to push it on to others OR push their Sharia Law. AND THAT IS A FACT!!!
RobertoRoldanÂ
“Good Muslims”? Really, for how long will they be “good” assuming you define good as nice and peaceable. Actually a “good” Muslim follows the Koran which tells them to bide their time, integrate themselves amongst the enemy and wait for the call to rise up and “slay the enemies of Allah”. That is us who do not follow their heathen ways. I have known some very nice Muslims over the years but they have a devotion we do not always understand and so I have to conclude that in my opinion they are ALL dangerous to civilization and civilized people. Good has no place in deciding policies of safety.
Jim144 Very well put, you Jim have a very clear view of what is goiing on. thanks for the common sense post.
Too bad not everyone has common sense, would be a better world wit it.
Ms Gallagher wrote:Â
Religious freedom is a core American
value, one of those things that really do make us different. We invented
it. We practiced it from the beginning.
Sorry, but history records otherwise…
âCyrus
the Great established the Achaemenid Empire ca. 550 BC, and initiated a
general policy of permitting religious freedom throughout the empire,
documenting this on the Cyrus Cylinder.[5][6]â
âFreedom of
religious worship was established in the Buddhist Maurya Empire of
ancient India by Ashoka the Great in the 3rd century BC, which was
encapsulated in the Edicts of Ashoka.â
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion
Clearly these were before the United States was even dreamed of so we hardly âinvented itâ.
Â
“The
idea that the United States has always been a bastion of religious
freedom is reassuringâand utterly at odds with the historical record.”
Smithsonian Magazine October 2010
“Philadelphia’s
Bible Riots of 1844 reflected a strain of anti-Catholic bias and
hostility that coursed through 19th-century America. (Granger
Collection, New York)”
‘From Puritan Bostonâs earliest days,
Catholics (âPapistsâ) were anathema and were banned from the colonies,
along with other non-Puritans. Four Quakers were hanged in Boston
between 1659 and 1661 for persistently returning to the city to stand up
for their beliefs.’
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist
These
quotes were from no more than a five minute search which I did because I
already knew that what was stated as fact in the column was not true.
Now
regarding Mr. Trump who may or may not be someone I vote for, it would
be wise for all to take off the blinders and get a wider truer view of
the situation.Â
IF what the Muslims are doing around the world is
indeed a religion then it is NOT one that any civilized nation should
allow. Nobody or religion has the right to kill themselves or especially
others while claiming it is their right to practice such! Has everyone
lost their minds, how can anyone be so blind? The time is coming when
they will cut every throat remove every head and rip out every set of
guts to any and all who do not bow down and worship their god and way of
life. Anyone who cannot see that deserves to have them as a neighbor.
The Radicals Muslims terrorist are the one that started a War against the USA and the rest of the world. So we need to know who they are , and which are the Good Muslims. This is not about religions freedom but about survival. It is true and understandable that some people will be ofended. But let the Good Muslims come forward and take a stand against the Islamic Criminals and help protect our children and the safety of our country. The good faith of the good people could overcome the fear the groups like ISIS are creating in the world against Muslims in general. If the good Muslims remain silence, it is a sign that they are supporting the actions of the Islamic terrorists. So getting a list of who “is good and who is bad ” it is not just for Santa’s Christmas list. I admire Mr. Trump for having the guts to speak what it is on the mind of the majority of Americans and not playing the P.C game that other politicians do.
Normally yes, however, since Islam is a terrorist cule of vile evil pedophile rapist worshiping pedophiles and murdering rapists, I think that precludes them from any valid religious applications. Any cult that requires its people to lie, cheat, steal, murder, torture, and worse to convert people definitely cannot be a religion. They need exterminated worldwide.
And gay people have a right to free speech. Too bad you don’t allow it here.
But guess what Ms. Gallagher. The American people disagree with you and side with Trump. Look at the polls. And of course in this article,you want to twist his words around. Muslims need to register for ours AND their protection. We did the same thing with the Japanese after Pearl Harbor so before you go and “report” crap like this,check your facts…
the main thing everyone is not saying is that their so called religion is not a religion and the fact that it calls for them to kill any unbelievers is a pretty good reason for no country that doesn’t go with that made up religion its only for the safety of the people and they could just as easy turn on you people the ones that are standing up for them I wonder are all of you just ignorant or is there something else that we are not being told I really think we are not getting the info that we should and you people have something to hide because I don’t think that there is this many people that dumb in the USA but I could be wrong
Well they come, I hope they land in your neighborhood. I don’t them within a thousand miles of me!
Well Maggie if the Muslims were sent back to where ever they were from we would not have to worry about the 1st amendment
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